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RichardEvansLee · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:02 am Post subject: Handcuffs

We had the metal handcuffs for a long time before Alexandra ever put them on me.

I feel gratifyingly helpless in their unforgiving snugness.

The only downside is that I suspect that there is a limit as to how long you should have them on with your hands behind your back.

Anyone have any experiences, techniques, tips to share?
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MissBonnie · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:53 am Post subject:

I've found with my oz anymore than 30 minutes tends to leave swelling or welts that can take up to a few hours to vanish (plus his shoulders start to ache). A good rule of thumb is to use the thumb rule, if you can slip your thumb into the cuffs past the knuckle, you have enough joint room for movement in the wrists and shoulders.
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RichardEvansLee · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: Shoulder Problems

roo-roo · Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 926 Location: SW Pennsylvania

I'm not sure about duration behind the back. But in my first bdsm relationship, I had a scary experience with handcuffs. She had me cuffed (in front of my body) and the cuffs were hooked to a secure tie-down point. Because of the things she was doing to me, I'd occasionally pull lightly on the cuffs; it just sort of happened- I tend to struggle at times. I wasn't pulling hard at all, and I wasn't pulling constantly. The cuffs were on at the right tightness (see the above thumb rule) and double-locked. Yet after about 5 minutes, one part of my hand started to go numb. I didn't say anything, since I just thought my hand was falling asleep. Bad move. After another 5 minutes or so, she let me out. That part of my hand (the relatively large muscle at the base of the thumb/palm) stayed numb for 3 days. That was scary. I thought I had permanent nerve damage. So the reason I say this is just to let you all know to be careful. If you go numb, speak up; your hand might not simply be falling asleep.

But my love for handcuffs was renewed when I discovered leather handcuff liners. These things are wonderful. I no longer have to worry about marks and I don't get numb anymore. (There is also a furry version of the liners available.) I really enjoy the portability and ease of use that handcuffs offer, so getting the liners was very much worth it for me.

RichardEvansLee · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: Cuff Liners

roo-roo · Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 926 Location: SW Pennsylvania

RichardEvansLee · Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: Discomfort

Myles · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject:

My only experience with metal cuffs was a bad one, so I've used leather cuffs exclusively since. I especially like the fact that they don't cause bruising or damage unless I do something wrong with applying them. I've had a boy struggle pretty fiercely in a pair of leather cuffs, and although his skin was reddened, it went away very quickly.

I'm always careful about positioning, however, because they'll still restrict circulation. check skin temp & color, and re-adjust as necessary. common sense is always the best guide.
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RichardEvansLee · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: Handcuff Safety

taomlin · Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 123 Location: Edgerton, CT, USA

I also had a poor experience with metal "police" style cuffs. Even the poorly made leather ones can be problematic. You might want to check some of the better suppliers to find a pattern that you like, because you can easily make them.

For some value of "easily"
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MissBonnie · Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:31 pm Post subject:

sounds like what roo-roo mentioned is compression swelling and pressure on the median nerve. which can sometimes lead to a form of carpal tunnel syndrome (CTS)

I find when I use the metal cuffs they nearly always cause troubles if the locking mechanism is on the inside of the wrist. taomlin and myles suggested the leather cuffs, you might think about suspension cuffs which avoid this nerve as they start and stop on either side of it (if they are made right)
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